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The true climate deniers are those who allege that all natural climate change has ceased and that the only climate change that has happened recently and will happen going forward is from man-made CO2. A powerful political weapon has often been, accuse your opponents of whatever is your own worst crime.

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Dear Jennifer, nice story, unfortunately without much data to back it up...

A few problems to begin with:

- The carbon mass balance: human use of fossil fuels emits about 10 PgC/year as CO2. 1 PgC = 12/44 Pg CO2 = 0.273 Pg CO2 where 1 PgC = 1 GtC as often used in the past.

The increase in the atmosphere is only about 5 PgC/year, and without appreciable human induced sinks, that is only possible if nature as a whole removes 5 PgC/year as CO2 out of the atmosphere, or you violate the carbon mass balance...

- Of course it is possible that thawing permafrost and other organic sources emit a lot of CO2 when temperatures rise, but the balance between uptake and release of CO2 by the biosphere is exactly known, by looking at the oxygen balance: each amount of CO2 captured by a plant emits a similar amount of O2 and in reverse: decaying plant remains use equivalent amounts of O2 to produce CO2.

While measuring a few tenths of a ppmv O2 in 200.000 ppmv O2 is a hell of a job for accuracy, it was done for the period 1993-2002:

https://tildesites.bowdoin.edu/~mbattle/papers_posters_and_talks/BenderGBC2005.pdf

See Figure 7 at the last page for the year by year variability between land and ocean uptake.

The result: the biosphere is a net sink for CO2, not a net source. Thus while the thawing of permafrost may release lots of CO2, the earth as a whole is greening, as even the NASA has to admit (thanks to our CO2!):

https://www.nasa.gov/centers-and-facilities/goddard/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth-study-finds/

- Your interpretation of the NOAA seasonal amplitude is upside down: when in spring temperatures and sunshine rise, new leaves emerge in deciduous trees and lots of CO2 are removed out of the atmosphere with all types of growing plants, leading to a dip of CO2 in spring/summer:

https://www.ferdinand-engelbeen.be/klimaat/klim_img/seasonal_CO2_d13C_MLO_BRW.jpg

Point Barrow (BRW) shows the largest change, at the edge of the Alaskan Ice Sea...

The opposite changes of CO2 and δ13C prove that the change is caused by vegetation, not by the oceans, as a CO2 change by the oceans will give a parallel change in δ13C.

- I have had direct discussions with the late Ernst Beck in the period 2000-2010, until his untimely death and completely disagree with his interpretation of the data. The range of the observed data are from near the bottom of the graph to far beyond the ceiling (he only shows the error bars of the methods used!).

Thus while the methods used were fairly good (mostly +/- 3% of the data or +/- 10 ppmv), where was measured was a mess and in many cases completely unsuitable to know the real background CO2 level of that time...

He can't defend his work anymore, but the Norwegian Science of Climate Change published his latest work post mortem:

https://scienceofclimatechange.org/wp-content/uploads/Beck-2010-Reconstruction-of-Atmospheric-CO2.pdf

I wrote a comment on that, which was also published by them:

https://scienceofclimatechange.org/wp-content/uploads/Engelbeen-2023-Beck-Discussion.pdf

All the best,

Ferdinand

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